# \[BIP-XXX\] - Orb Collective - Moving Forward

**URL:** <https://forum.balancer.fi/t/bip-xxx-orb-collective-moving-forward/4748>\
**Category:** General Proposal\
**Created:** [May 8, 2023, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.balancer.fi/t/bip-xxx-orb-collective-moving-forward/4748 "2023-05-08T10:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![rEgULaToRycLaRiTy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dbc845/32.png) [@rEgULaToRycLaRiTy](https://forum.balancer.fi/u/rEgULaToRycLaRiTy)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.balancer.fi/t/bip-xxx-orb-collective-moving-forward/4748/35 "2023-05-16T19:06:31Z")

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From the beginning this proposal didnt make sense. It was poorly thought through and smelled like poorly hidden dirty dealings. Now the whole original proposal was torn up nd replaced with new terms. 1 of which is just repeating whats already established in [orbs proposal](https://forum.balancer.fi/t/bip-20-funding-proposal-for-orb-collective/3359) from last year, 1 of which is repeating whats covered in [this proposal](https://forum.balancer.fi/t/bip-xxx-return-undesignated-bal-tokens-from-orb-to-the-dao-treasury/4780), and 1 of which would cause a breach of contract. Seriously how I dont know how you post this stuff without thinking first.

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